[SAC] Subversion vhost migration underway

Folks,

I have flipped the switch on the DNS, and the subversion virtual host migration is underway. The TTL was set to 6 hours a couple of days ago (after being turned down to 1 day more than a week ago), so the new DNS should propagate fairly quickly. After some time for DNS to propagate, we'll flip the switch back on for the repositories.

Note that it is expected that both gdal - Revision 41888: / and http://svn.osgeo.org/svn/gdal will continue to work as repository URLs, but the shorter one is the preferred one. At some indefinite point in the future, we will quit answering to /svn/gdal.

After the repositories are back up, at your leisure you may do:

svn switch --relocate http://svn.osgeo.org/svn/gdal gdal - Revision 41888: /

and all should be well.

Howard

Howard,

Several users were/are taking advantage of the wildcard DNS to reference the repositories with paths like:

https://osgeo.org/svn/fdo

Is there any way to re-enable that path on the www vhost until these users get switched over? I misunderstood the impact of the changes and indicated in my note that these aliases would continue to work until the wildcard DNS was pulled.

Jason

________________________________

From: sac-bounces@lists.osgeo.org on behalf of Howard Butler
Sent: Fri 2007-03-02 8:20 PM
To: System Administration Committee Discussion/OSGeo
Subject: [SAC] Subversion vhost migration underway

Folks,

I have flipped the switch on the DNS, and the subversion virtual host
migration is underway. The TTL was set to 6 hours a couple of days
ago (after being turned down to 1 day more than a week ago), so the
new DNS should propagate fairly quickly. After some time for DNS to
propagate, we'll flip the switch back on for the repositories.

Note that it is expected that both http://svn.osgeo.org/gdal and
http://svn.osgeo.org/svn/gdal will continue to work as repository
URLs, but the shorter one is the preferred one. At some indefinite
point in the future, we will quit answering to /svn/gdal.

After the repositories are back up, at your leisure you may do:

svn switch --relocate http://svn.osgeo.org/svn/gdal http:///>
svn.osgeo.org/gdal

and all should be well.

Howard
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I have turned it on long enough for users to do a svn switch. I propose that we switch it off Monday at 5 pm CST. I think it would be pretty important that they don't *commit* anything to the old URL, and only commit to the new URL after they issue the switch. The svn switch --relocate command below should work fine with the appropriate substitutions for their URLs.

Howard

On Mar 3, 2007, at 1:49 AM, Jason Birch wrote:

Howard,

Several users were/are taking advantage of the wildcard DNS to reference the repositories with paths like:

FDO - OSGeo

Is there any way to re-enable that path on the www vhost until these users get switched over? I misunderstood the impact of the changes and indicated in my note that these aliases would continue to work until the wildcard DNS was pulled.

Jason

________________________________

From: sac-bounces@lists.osgeo.org on behalf of Howard Butler
Sent: Fri 2007-03-02 8:20 PM
To: System Administration Committee Discussion/OSGeo
Subject: [SAC] Subversion vhost migration underway

Folks,

I have flipped the switch on the DNS, and the subversion virtual host
migration is underway. The TTL was set to 6 hours a couple of days
ago (after being turned down to 1 day more than a week ago), so the
new DNS should propagate fairly quickly. After some time for DNS to
propagate, we'll flip the switch back on for the repositories.

Note that it is expected that both gdal - Revision 41888: / and
http://svn.osgeo.org/svn/gdal will continue to work as repository
URLs, but the shorter one is the preferred one. At some indefinite
point in the future, we will quit answering to /svn/gdal.

After the repositories are back up, at your leisure you may do:

svn switch --relocate http://svn.osgeo.org/svn/gdal http:///>
svn.osgeo.org/gdal

and all should be well.

Howard
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Hi all,

If you are currently using a host other than svn.osgeo.org, please make sure that you update your local repository to point to the new location by 5pm CST, Monday.

For instance, if you are using https://osgeo.org/svn/fdo (or mapguide), use the following command:

svn switch --relocate https://osgeo.org/svn/fdo <http:///> http://svn.osgeo.org/fdo&gt; svn.osgeo.org/fdo

(all on one line)

This change is necessary so that we can move away from wildcard DNS, which is causing considerable problems in managing the website, and to allow for future separate of SVN and WWW services onto different servers. If you require extended time to make this change, please let the SAC mailing list know by email as soon as possible.

If you are pointing to the svn.osgeo.org host but including /svn/ at the beginning of your path, you do not have to change immediately, but you are still encouraged to update to the new canonical URI as soon as possible. e.g.:

svn switch --relocate https://svn.osgeo.org/svn/fdo https://svn.osgeo.org/fdo

Jason

________________________________

From: sac-bounces@lists.osgeo.org on behalf of Howard Butler
Sent: Sat 2007-03-03 6:36 AM
To: System Administration Committee Discussion/OSGeo
Subject: Re: [SAC] Subversion vhost migration underway

I have turned it on long enough for users to do a svn switch. I
propose that we switch it off Monday at 5 pm CST. I think it would
be pretty important that they don't *commit* anything to the old URL,
and only commit to the new URL after they issue the switch. The svn
switch --relocate command below should work fine with the appropriate
substitutions for their URLs.

Howard

On Mar 3, 2007, at 1:49 AM, Jason Birch wrote:

Howard,

Several users were/are taking advantage of the wildcard DNS to
reference the repositories with paths like:

https://osgeo.org/svn/fdo

Is there any way to re-enable that path on the www vhost until
these users get switched over? I misunderstood the impact of the
changes and indicated in my note that these aliases would continue
to work until the wildcard DNS was pulled.

Jason

________________________________

From: sac-bounces@lists.osgeo.org on behalf of Howard Butler
Sent: Fri 2007-03-02 8:20 PM
To: System Administration Committee Discussion/OSGeo
Subject: [SAC] Subversion vhost migration underway

Folks,

I have flipped the switch on the DNS, and the subversion virtual host
migration is underway. The TTL was set to 6 hours a couple of days
ago (after being turned down to 1 day more than a week ago), so the
new DNS should propagate fairly quickly. After some time for DNS to
propagate, we'll flip the switch back on for the repositories.

Note that it is expected that both http://svn.osgeo.org/gdal and
http://svn.osgeo.org/svn/gdal will continue to work as repository
URLs, but the shorter one is the preferred one. At some indefinite
point in the future, we will quit answering to /svn/gdal.

After the repositories are back up, at your leisure you may do:

svn switch --relocate http://svn.osgeo.org/svn/gdal http:///> <http:///>
svn.osgeo.org/gdal

and all should be well.

Howard
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Jason,

If I switch on the old configuration to support the wildcard, it then breaks http://svn.osgeo.org/svn/mapguide or http://svn.osgeo.org/svn/fdo

I'm at a loss as to what to do because we're screwed both ways... support the wildcard and break for the people using the old canonical URL or don't support the wildcard and break for the people who were using any old URL. My guess is that subversion sees absolute paths regardless of the vhost, so /svn/fdo is the same repository on both vhosts (they are configured differently).

I propose that we break the support for wildcard svn. How many folks do we imagine this issue might affect?

Input requested...

Howard

On Mar 3, 2007, at 2:31 PM, Jason Birch wrote:

Hi all,

If you are currently using a host other than svn.osgeo.org, please make sure that you update your local repository to point to the new location by 5pm CST, Monday.

For instance, if you are using FDO - OSGeo (or mapguide), use the following command:

svn switch --relocate FDO - OSGeo <http:///> http://svn.osgeo.org/fdo&gt; svn.osgeo.org/fdo

(all on one line)

This change is necessary so that we can move away from wildcard DNS, which is causing considerable problems in managing the website, and to allow for future separate of SVN and WWW services onto different servers. If you require extended time to make this change, please let the SAC mailing list know by email as soon as possible.

If you are pointing to the svn.osgeo.org host but including /svn/ at the beginning of your path, you do not have to change immediately, but you are still encouraged to update to the new canonical URI as soon as possible. e.g.:

svn switch --relocate https://svn.osgeo.org/svn/fdo fdo - Revision 8246: /

Jason

________________________________

From: sac-bounces@lists.osgeo.org on behalf of Howard Butler
Sent: Sat 2007-03-03 6:36 AM
To: System Administration Committee Discussion/OSGeo
Subject: Re: [SAC] Subversion vhost migration underway

I have turned it on long enough for users to do a svn switch. I
propose that we switch it off Monday at 5 pm CST. I think it would
be pretty important that they don't *commit* anything to the old URL,
and only commit to the new URL after they issue the switch. The svn
switch --relocate command below should work fine with the appropriate
substitutions for their URLs.

Howard

On Mar 3, 2007, at 1:49 AM, Jason Birch wrote:

Howard,

Several users were/are taking advantage of the wildcard DNS to
reference the repositories with paths like:

FDO - OSGeo

Is there any way to re-enable that path on the www vhost until
these users get switched over? I misunderstood the impact of the
changes and indicated in my note that these aliases would continue
to work until the wildcard DNS was pulled.

Jason

________________________________

From: sac-bounces@lists.osgeo.org on behalf of Howard Butler
Sent: Fri 2007-03-02 8:20 PM
To: System Administration Committee Discussion/OSGeo
Subject: [SAC] Subversion vhost migration underway

Folks,

I have flipped the switch on the DNS, and the subversion virtual host
migration is underway. The TTL was set to 6 hours a couple of days
ago (after being turned down to 1 day more than a week ago), so the
new DNS should propagate fairly quickly. After some time for DNS to
propagate, we'll flip the switch back on for the repositories.

Note that it is expected that both gdal - Revision 41888: / and
http://svn.osgeo.org/svn/gdal will continue to work as repository
URLs, but the shorter one is the preferred one. At some indefinite
point in the future, we will quit answering to /svn/gdal.

After the repositories are back up, at your leisure you may do:

svn switch --relocate http://svn.osgeo.org/svn/gdal http:///> <http:///>
svn.osgeo.org/gdal

and all should be well.

Howard
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Well, that sucks (see below)

I think that for the FDO project, the SVN used in their checkout script was:

https://osgeo.org/svn/fdo *

I'm not sure how many folks are affected, but it's probably a lot.

Bob? Greg? Can we live with breaking the non-"svn.osgeo.org" (wildcard) access, and having any users stuck with this URL manually merge their changes into a fresh checkout from the new location?

Howard, is it an option to leave the /svn/ alias on the svn.osgeo.org site broken (and inaccessible) until end of Monday (meaning that those folks can't check in changes or switch to the new location) and then break the wildcard access at that time, re-enabling the /svn/ alias? I guess we've got GDAL and MapBender to consider here too...

We may want to think about what caused this problem in the first place. I have a feeling it was because of the chaos of the initial changeover. Does SAC need to put a notification procedure in place for projects using the OSGeo infrastructure, or should a post to the SAC mailing list be enough, with a requirement that projects monitor that list?

As an aside, I HATE wildcard DNS, as it leads to this kind of situation, and I will be extremely glad when it's gone.

Jason

________________________________

From: sac-bounces@lists.osgeo.org on behalf of Howard Butler
Sent: Sat 2007-03-03 9:52 PM
To: System Administration Committee Discussion/OSGeo
Subject: Re: [SAC] Subversion vhost migration underway

Jason,

If I switch on the old configuration to support the wildcard, it then
breaks http://svn.osgeo.org/svn/mapguide or http://svn.osgeo.org/svn/fdo

I'm at a loss as to what to do because we're screwed both ways...
support the wildcard and break for the people using the old canonical
URL or don't support the wildcard and break for the people who were
using any old URL. My guess is that subversion sees absolute paths
regardless of the vhost, so /svn/fdo is the same repository on both
vhosts (they are configured differently).

I propose that we break the support for wildcard svn. How many folks
do we imagine this issue might affect?

Input requested...

Howard

On Mar 3, 2007, at 2:31 PM, Jason Birch wrote:

Hi all,

If you are currently using a host other than svn.osgeo.org, please
make sure that you update your local repository to point to the new
location by 5pm CST, Monday.

For instance, if you are using https://osgeo.org/svn/fdo <https://
osgeo.org/svn/fdo> (or mapguide), use the following command:

svn switch --relocate https://osgeo.org/svn/fdo <https://osgeo.org/
svn/fdo> <http:///> http:///> <http://svn.osgeo.org/fdo&gt;
svn.osgeo.org/fdo

(all on one line)

This change is necessary so that we can move away from wildcard
DNS, which is causing considerable problems in managing the
website, and to allow for future separate of SVN and WWW services
onto different servers. If you require extended time to make this
change, please let the SAC mailing list know by email as soon as
possible.

If you are pointing to the svn.osgeo.org host but including /svn/
at the beginning of your path, you do not have to change
immediately, but you are still encouraged to update to the new
canonical URI as soon as possible. e.g.:

svn switch --relocate https://svn.osgeo.org/svn/fdo <https://
svn.osgeo.org/svn/fdo> https://svn.osgeo.org/fdo <https://
svn.osgeo.org/fdo>

Jason

________________________________

From: sac-bounces@lists.osgeo.org on behalf of Howard Butler
Sent: Sat 2007-03-03 6:36 AM
To: System Administration Committee Discussion/OSGeo
Subject: Re: [SAC] Subversion vhost migration underway

I have turned it on long enough for users to do a svn switch. I
propose that we switch it off Monday at 5 pm CST. I think it would
be pretty important that they don't *commit* anything to the old URL,
and only commit to the new URL after they issue the switch. The svn
switch --relocate command below should work fine with the appropriate
substitutions for their URLs.

Howard

On Mar 3, 2007, at 1:49 AM, Jason Birch wrote:

Howard,

Several users were/are taking advantage of the wildcard DNS to
reference the repositories with paths like:

https://osgeo.org/svn/fdo

Is there any way to re-enable that path on the www vhost until
these users get switched over? I misunderstood the impact of the
changes and indicated in my note that these aliases would continue
to work until the wildcard DNS was pulled.

Jason

________________________________

From: sac-bounces@lists.osgeo.org on behalf of Howard Butler
Sent: Fri 2007-03-02 8:20 PM
To: System Administration Committee Discussion/OSGeo
Subject: [SAC] Subversion vhost migration underway

Folks,

I have flipped the switch on the DNS, and the subversion virtual host
migration is underway. The TTL was set to 6 hours a couple of days
ago (after being turned down to 1 day more than a week ago), so the
new DNS should propagate fairly quickly. After some time for DNS to
propagate, we'll flip the switch back on for the repositories.

Note that it is expected that both http://svn.osgeo.org/gdal and
http://svn.osgeo.org/svn/gdal will continue to work as repository
URLs, but the shorter one is the preferred one. At some indefinite
point in the future, we will quit answering to /svn/gdal.

After the repositories are back up, at your leisure you may do:

svn switch --relocate http://svn.osgeo.org/svn/gdal http:///>
<http:///> <http:///>
svn.osgeo.org/gdal

and all should be well.

Howard
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The other thing we could do is have /svn/fdo use the old configuration and /fdo use the new configuration (rather than having the new configuration/vhost answer both /svn/fdo *and* /fdo). This would mean that people could use the wildcard stuff for their switchover to the new canonical URL. We can do this on a per-repository basis, so we could limit it to the fdo* and mapguide repositories, which seem to be depending on wildcard.

I have taken liberty to try this out with the FDO repository and it seems to work (let me know if I need to switch it back). I don't want to cause the pain and misery of manually merging for lots of folks, so which ever way is going to lessen that is the approach I think we should take. If this sounds good, I will flip the fdo* and mapguide repos to behave this way until 5 pm monday. After that point, I will have the vhost answer both /svn/fdo and /fdo, and *those* people can then do their svn switch --relocate. (or checkout fresh if it isn't too much of a hardship, there's always that option).

Whaddya think?

Howard

On Mar 4, 2007, at 12:48 AM, Jason Birch wrote:

Well, that sucks (see below)

I think that for the FDO project, the SVN used in their checkout script was:

FDO - OSGeo *

I'm not sure how many folks are affected, but it's probably a lot.

Bob? Greg? Can we live with breaking the non-"svn.osgeo.org" (wildcard) access, and having any users stuck with this URL manually merge their changes into a fresh checkout from the new location?

Howard, is it an option to leave the /svn/ alias on the svn.osgeo.org site broken (and inaccessible) until end of Monday (meaning that those folks can't check in changes or switch to the new location) and then break the wildcard access at that time, re-enabling the /svn/ alias? I guess we've got GDAL and MapBender to consider here too...

We may want to think about what caused this problem in the first place. I have a feeling it was because of the chaos of the initial changeover. Does SAC need to put a notification procedure in place for projects using the OSGeo infrastructure, or should a post to the SAC mailing list be enough, with a requirement that projects monitor that list?

As an aside, I HATE wildcard DNS, as it leads to this kind of situation, and I will be extremely glad when it's gone.

Jason

________________________________

From: sac-bounces@lists.osgeo.org on behalf of Howard Butler
Sent: Sat 2007-03-03 9:52 PM
To: System Administration Committee Discussion/OSGeo
Subject: Re: [SAC] Subversion vhost migration underway

Jason,

If I switch on the old configuration to support the wildcard, it then
breaks http://svn.osgeo.org/svn/mapguide or http://svn.osgeo.org/svn/fdo

I'm at a loss as to what to do because we're screwed both ways...
support the wildcard and break for the people using the old canonical
URL or don't support the wildcard and break for the people who were
using any old URL. My guess is that subversion sees absolute paths
regardless of the vhost, so /svn/fdo is the same repository on both
vhosts (they are configured differently).

I propose that we break the support for wildcard svn. How many folks
do we imagine this issue might affect?

Input requested...

Howard

On Mar 3, 2007, at 2:31 PM, Jason Birch wrote:

Hi all,

If you are currently using a host other than svn.osgeo.org, please
make sure that you update your local repository to point to the new
location by 5pm CST, Monday.

For instance, if you are using FDO - OSGeo <https://
osgeo.org/svn/fdo> (or mapguide), use the following command:

svn switch --relocate FDO - OSGeo <https://osgeo.org/
svn/fdo> <http:///> http:///> <http://svn.osgeo.org/fdo&gt;
svn.osgeo.org/fdo

(all on one line)

This change is necessary so that we can move away from wildcard
DNS, which is causing considerable problems in managing the
website, and to allow for future separate of SVN and WWW services
onto different servers. If you require extended time to make this
change, please let the SAC mailing list know by email as soon as
possible.

If you are pointing to the svn.osgeo.org host but including /svn/
at the beginning of your path, you do not have to change
immediately, but you are still encouraged to update to the new
canonical URI as soon as possible. e.g.:

svn switch --relocate https://svn.osgeo.org/svn/fdo <https://
svn.osgeo.org/svn/fdo> fdo - Revision 8246: / <https://
svn.osgeo.org/fdo>

Jason

________________________________

From: sac-bounces@lists.osgeo.org on behalf of Howard Butler
Sent: Sat 2007-03-03 6:36 AM
To: System Administration Committee Discussion/OSGeo
Subject: Re: [SAC] Subversion vhost migration underway

I have turned it on long enough for users to do a svn switch. I
propose that we switch it off Monday at 5 pm CST. I think it would
be pretty important that they don't *commit* anything to the old URL,
and only commit to the new URL after they issue the switch. The svn
switch --relocate command below should work fine with the appropriate
substitutions for their URLs.

Howard

On Mar 3, 2007, at 1:49 AM, Jason Birch wrote:

Howard,

Several users were/are taking advantage of the wildcard DNS to
reference the repositories with paths like:

FDO - OSGeo

Is there any way to re-enable that path on the www vhost until
these users get switched over? I misunderstood the impact of the
changes and indicated in my note that these aliases would continue
to work until the wildcard DNS was pulled.

Jason

________________________________

From: sac-bounces@lists.osgeo.org on behalf of Howard Butler
Sent: Fri 2007-03-02 8:20 PM
To: System Administration Committee Discussion/OSGeo
Subject: [SAC] Subversion vhost migration underway

Folks,

I have flipped the switch on the DNS, and the subversion virtual host
migration is underway. The TTL was set to 6 hours a couple of days
ago (after being turned down to 1 day more than a week ago), so the
new DNS should propagate fairly quickly. After some time for DNS to
propagate, we'll flip the switch back on for the repositories.

Note that it is expected that both gdal - Revision 41888: / and
http://svn.osgeo.org/svn/gdal will continue to work as repository
URLs, but the shorter one is the preferred one. At some indefinite
point in the future, we will quit answering to /svn/gdal.

After the repositories are back up, at your leisure you may do:

svn switch --relocate http://svn.osgeo.org/svn/gdal http:///>
<http:///> <http:///>
svn.osgeo.org/gdal

and all should be well.

Howard
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On Mar 4, 2007, at 12:48 AM, Jason Birch wrote:

We may want to think about what caused this problem in the first place. I have a feeling it was because of the chaos of the initial changeover. Does SAC need to put a notification procedure in place for projects using the OSGeo infrastructure, or should a post to the SAC mailing list be enough, with a requirement that projects monitor that list?

I think that all projects depending on infrastructure should have at least one representative subscribed to the SAC list at the very least. Notification of major changes and meeting minutes with upcoming changes are going to come across this list. I also am in the habit of blurbing small changes and additions as I make them to #telascience so that I don't step on other people's toes who might be doing similar sorts of things (it also provides a nice sanity check).

As far as the chaos of the initial changeover, I think CN's layout is mostly to blame. We were pretty much forced to answer to every URL under the sun for all kinds of things. Replicating enough infrastructure to keep the lights on through the CN->self transition was pretty tough. It would have been nice to do things like vhosts for trac and svn and layout stuff how we may have ultimately wanted them to be at that time but we didn't have all of our ducks in a row to do it. I think we have still come a long ways, and stuff is still a little bumpy, but we'll eventually get to something that works well for us. The challenge is not pissing people off too much while we try to do it :slight_smile:

Howard

Whoops, missed this one. I actually had a life this weekend.

I think that's a reasonable strategy.

Jason

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From: sac-bounces@lists.osgeo.org [mailto:sac-bounces@lists.osgeo.org]
On Behalf Of Howard Butler
Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2007 23:02
To: System Administration Committee Discussion/OSGeo
Subject: Re: [SAC] Subversion vhost migration underway
Importance: High

The other thing we could do is have /svn/fdo use the old configuration
and /fdo use the new configuration (rather than having the new
configuration/vhost answer both /svn/fdo *and* /fdo). This would mean
that people could use the wildcard stuff for their switchover to the new
canonical URL. We can do this on a per- repository basis, so we could
limit it to the fdo* and mapguide repositories, which seem to be
depending on wildcard.

I have taken liberty to try this out with the FDO repository and it
seems to work (let me know if I need to switch it back). I don't want
to cause the pain and misery of manually merging for lots of folks, so
which ever way is going to lessen that is the approach I think we should
take. If this sounds good, I will flip the fdo* and mapguide repos to
behave this way until 5 pm monday. After that point, I will have the
vhost answer both /svn/fdo and /fdo, and
*those* people can then do their svn switch --relocate. (or checkout
fresh if it isn't too much of a hardship, there's always that option).

Whaddya think?

Howard

On Mar 4, 2007, at 12:48 AM, Jason Birch wrote:

Well, that sucks (see below)

I think that for the FDO project, the SVN used in their checkout
script was:

https://osgeo.org/svn/fdo *

I'm not sure how many folks are affected, but it's probably a lot.

Bob? Greg? Can we live with breaking the non-"svn.osgeo.org"
(wildcard) access, and having any users stuck with this URL manually
merge their changes into a fresh checkout from the new location?

Howard, is it an option to leave the /svn/ alias on the svn.osgeo.org
site broken (and inaccessible) until end of Monday (meaning that those

folks can't check in changes or switch to the new location) and then
break the wildcard access at that time, re- enabling the /svn/ alias?

I guess we've got GDAL and MapBender to consider here too...

We may want to think about what caused this problem in the first
place. I have a feeling it was because of the chaos of the initial
changeover. Does SAC need to put a notification procedure in place
for projects using the OSGeo infrastructure, or should a post to the
SAC mailing list be enough, with a requirement that projects monitor
that list?

As an aside, I HATE wildcard DNS, as it leads to this kind of
situation, and I will be extremely glad when it's gone.

Jason

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From: sac-bounces@lists.osgeo.org on behalf of Howard Butler
Sent: Sat 2007-03-03 9:52 PM
To: System Administration Committee Discussion/OSGeo
Subject: Re: [SAC] Subversion vhost migration underway

Jason,

If I switch on the old configuration to support the wildcard, it then
breaks http://svn.osgeo.org/svn/mapguide or http://svn.osgeo.org/
svn/fdo

I'm at a loss as to what to do because we're screwed both ways...
support the wildcard and break for the people using the old canonical
URL or don't support the wildcard and break for the people who were
using any old URL. My guess is that subversion sees absolute paths
regardless of the vhost, so /svn/fdo is the same repository on both
vhosts (they are configured differently).

I propose that we break the support for wildcard svn. How many folks
do we imagine this issue might affect?

Input requested...

Howard

On Mar 3, 2007, at 2:31 PM, Jason Birch wrote:

Hi all,

If you are currently using a host other than svn.osgeo.org, please
make sure that you update your local repository to point to the new
location by 5pm CST, Monday.

For instance, if you are using https://osgeo.org/svn/fdo <https://
osgeo.org/svn/fdo> (or mapguide), use the following command:

svn switch --relocate https://osgeo.org/svn/fdo <https://osgeo.org/
svn/fdo> <http:///> http:///> <http://svn.osgeo.org/fdo&gt;
svn.osgeo.org/fdo

(all on one line)

This change is necessary so that we can move away from wildcard DNS,
which is causing considerable problems in managing the website, and
to allow for future separate of SVN and WWW services onto different
servers. If you require extended time to make this change, please
let the SAC mailing list know by email as soon as possible.

If you are pointing to the svn.osgeo.org host but including /svn/ at
the beginning of your path, you do not have to change immediately,
but you are still encouraged to update to the new canonical URI as
soon as possible. e.g.:

svn switch --relocate https://svn.osgeo.org/svn/fdo <https://
svn.osgeo.org/svn/fdo> https://svn.osgeo.org/fdo <https://
svn.osgeo.org/fdo>

Jason

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From: sac-bounces@lists.osgeo.org on behalf of Howard Butler
Sent: Sat 2007-03-03 6:36 AM
To: System Administration Committee Discussion/OSGeo
Subject: Re: [SAC] Subversion vhost migration underway

I have turned it on long enough for users to do a svn switch. I
propose that we switch it off Monday at 5 pm CST. I think it would
be pretty important that they don't *commit* anything to the old URL,

and only commit to the new URL after they issue the switch. The svn
switch --relocate command below should work fine with the appropriate

substitutions for their URLs.

Howard

On Mar 3, 2007, at 1:49 AM, Jason Birch wrote:

Howard,

Several users were/are taking advantage of the wildcard DNS to
reference the repositories with paths like:

https://osgeo.org/svn/fdo

Is there any way to re-enable that path on the www vhost until these

users get switched over? I misunderstood the impact of the changes
and indicated in my note that these aliases would continue to work
until the wildcard DNS was pulled.

Jason

________________________________

From: sac-bounces@lists.osgeo.org on behalf of Howard Butler
Sent: Fri 2007-03-02 8:20 PM
To: System Administration Committee Discussion/OSGeo
Subject: [SAC] Subversion vhost migration underway

Folks,

I have flipped the switch on the DNS, and the subversion virtual
host migration is underway. The TTL was set to 6 hours a couple of
days ago (after being turned down to 1 day more than a week ago), so

the new DNS should propagate fairly quickly. After some time for
DNS to propagate, we'll flip the switch back on for the
repositories.

Note that it is expected that both http://svn.osgeo.org/gdal and
http://svn.osgeo.org/svn/gdal will continue to work as repository
URLs, but the shorter one is the preferred one. At some indefinite
point in the future, we will quit answering to /svn/gdal.

After the repositories are back up, at your leisure you may do:

svn switch --relocate http://svn.osgeo.org/svn/gdal http://
<http:///> <http:///> <http:///> svn.osgeo.org/gdal

and all should be well.

Howard
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