[SAC] Upgrading MediaWiki and breaking the UserMap

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Hi,

I'd like to update MediaWiki on the OSGeo Wiki. Ours is pretty much
outdated, but updating would break at least the UserMap extension.
Anyhow I'm still in favour of biting this bullet in order to provide
better Wiki experience to users and editors - and sysadmins.

Hoefully this will some day lead to replacing the UserMap using
Semantic MediaWiki.

Cheers,
  Martin.
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That would be great Martin, reeeeally appreciated.

:slight_smile:

–
Jorge Sanz

Sent from my phone, excuse my brevity.

El 09/11/2015 23:40, “Martin Spott” <Martin.Spott@mgras.net> escribió:

Hi,

I’d like to update MediaWiki on the OSGeo Wiki. Ours is pretty much
outdated, but updating would break at least the UserMap extension.
Anyhow I’m still in favour of biting this bullet in order to provide
better Wiki experience to users and editors - and sysadmins.

Hoefully this will some day lead to replacing the UserMap using
Semantic MediaWiki.

Cheers,
Martin.

Unix IS user friendly - it’s just selective about who its friends are !

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+1

Yes, do it! The SMW approach would be independent of the current map anyway.

Regards,
Christian

Am 09.11.2015 um 23:40 schrieb Martin Spott:

Hi,

I'd like to update MediaWiki on the OSGeo Wiki. Ours is pretty much
outdated, but updating would break at least the UserMap extension.
Anyhow I'm still in favour of biting this bullet in order to provide
better Wiki experience to users and editors - and sysadmins.

Hoefully this will some day lead to replacing the UserMap using
Semantic MediaWiki.

Cheers,
  Martin.

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Upgrade starts now, please expect dropouts,

  Martin.
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Upgrade rolled back,

there are a few emtpy pages after the upgrade which I won't be able to
fix - and my back is aching .... :-/

Will try again on Saturday night,

  Martin.
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I'm performing 'incremental' updates now instead of one big step,

  Martin.
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After half a dozen of upgrades I finally arrived at the latest 1.25
version of MediaWiki - as promised, the UserMaps are now broken.

I hope that Christian will be able to fill the gap at least in the
medium future, the latest SemanticBundle-20140514 has been installed in
"extensions/" (because references to other extensions in the bundle
disallow installing in a subdir).

Have fun and test,

  Martin.
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Thank you Martin! Awesome!

If ok, I will go on and implement a UserMap/OSGeoMember SMW model in the OSGeo Wiki.

I have a working prototype, but its completely undocumented yet. Here: https://github.com/cwillmes/OSGeoWiki
And here: http://wiki.cwillmes.de/index.php/Category:OSGeoMember

I will write up the documentation and explain how it works and what the benefits are.

I even found a way to migrate the current map data from the PostGIS table.

I have an event tomorrow, so I have not so much time this weekend, but I try to come up with something in the next days.

Cheers,
Christian

On 14.11.2015 10:38, Martin Spott wrote:

After half a dozen of upgrades I finally arrived at the latest 1.25
version of MediaWiki - as promised, the UserMaps are now broken.

I hope that Christian will be able to fill the gap at least in the
medium future, the latest SemanticBundle-20140514 has been installed in
"extensions/" (because references to other extensions in the bundle
disallow installing in a subdir).

Have fun and test,

  Martin.

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Hi Christian,

On Sat, Nov 14, 2015 at 12:02:31PM +0100, Christian Willmes wrote:

If ok, I will go on and implement a UserMap/OSGeoMember SMW model in the
OSGeo Wiki.

[...]

I even found a way to migrate the current map data from the PostGIS table.

Sounds great !

  Martin.
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On 2015-11-14 7:08 AM, Martin Spott wrote:

Hi Christian,

On Sat, Nov 14, 2015 at 12:02:31PM +0100, Christian Willmes wrote:

If ok, I will go on and implement a UserMap/OSGeoMember SMW model in the
OSGeo Wiki.

[...]

I even found a way to migrate the current map data from the PostGIS table.

Sounds great !

  Martin.

Thank you to both Martin and Christian!

-jeff

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Excellent Martin, big kudos!!

On 14 November 2015 at 13:35, Jeff McKenna
<jmckenna@gatewaygeomatics.com> wrote:

On 2015-11-14 7:08 AM, Martin Spott wrote:

Hi Christian,

On Sat, Nov 14, 2015 at 12:02:31PM +0100, Christian Willmes wrote:

If ok, I will go on and implement a UserMap/OSGeoMember SMW model in the
OSGeo Wiki.

[...]

I even found a way to migrate the current map data from the PostGIS
table.

Sounds great !

        Martin.

Thank you to both Martin and Christian!

-jeff

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On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 01:25:08PM +0100, Jorge Sanz wrote:

Excellent Martin, big kudos!!

I'm glad you like it !

Note that I've now enabled the so-called "WikiEditor" extension. If you
dislike it or if this causes unexpected trouble, then please let me
know.

Cheers,
  Martin.
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Hello,

I think I finished the first basic version of the OSGeoMembers Map Semantic Mediawiki based data model [1].

You can see the current state of the implementation here [2], including the imported member locations from the old userMap implementation.

I also wrote some basic documentation [3], that I will paste to the OSGeo Wiki after I have implemented the model there.

A blog post explaining the new Members map (including some technical details) is also in the works.

If its Ok for SAC, I will go on and implement this tomorrow in the OSGeo Wiki.

Regards,
Christian

[1] https://github.com/cwillmes/OSGeoWiki
[2] http://wiki.cwillmes.de/index.php/Category:OSGeoMember
[3] http://wiki.cwillmes.de/index.php/OSGeo_Member_Map_documentation

Am 14.11.2015 um 12:02 schrieb Christian Willmes:

Thank you Martin! Awesome!

If ok, I will go on and implement a UserMap/OSGeoMember SMW model in the OSGeo Wiki.

I have a working prototype, but its completely undocumented yet. Here: https://github.com/cwillmes/OSGeoWiki
And here: http://wiki.cwillmes.de/index.php/Category:OSGeoMember

I will write up the documentation and explain how it works and what the benefits are.

I even found a way to migrate the current map data from the PostGIS table.

I have an event tomorrow, so I have not so much time this weekend, but I try to come up with something in the next days.

Cheers,
Christian

On 14.11.2015 10:38, Martin Spott wrote:

After half a dozen of upgrades I finally arrived at the latest 1.25
version of MediaWiki - as promised, the UserMaps are now broken.

I hope that Christian will be able to fill the gap at least in the
medium future, the latest SemanticBundle-20140514 has been installed in
"extensions/" (because references to other extensions in the bundle
disallow installing in a subdir).

Have fun and test,

    Martin.

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On Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 12:06:58PM +0100, Christian Willmes wrote:

If its Ok for SAC, I will go on and implement this tomorrow in the OSGeo
Wiki.

Looks great to me, please go ahead,

  Martin.
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Hi,

I wanted to do this now, but I get an:

ssh_exchange_identification: read: Connection reset by peer

when I try to SSH into wiki.osgeo.org.
On monday (I think, or for sure on last friday) I could SSH onto the server.

I need to enable the Semantic Maps, DataTransfer and ParserFunctions extensions from the Semantic Bundle, in order to get this implemented.

Thanks,
Christian

Am 19.11.2015 um 12:20 schrieb Martin Spott:

On Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 12:06:58PM +0100, Christian Willmes wrote:

If its Ok for SAC, I will go on and implement this tomorrow in the OSGeo
Wiki.

Looks great to me, please go ahead,

  Martin.