Is there something broken in the OSGeo wiki?
http://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php/Main_Page
It seems to me that this is not the way the wiki used to look and some formatting is missing... missing stylesheets maybe? Or is this really the intended look and feel? Or maybe it's a browser issue? I'm using Mozilla 1.7.3 on Linux.
MediaWikis usually look like this: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki
Daniel
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Is there a chance you did not pick up the CSS file when the page downloaded? This happens to me occasionally when I go to a site that uses a lot of CSS. I just loaded the page and it looks more or less normal.
Allan
On Jul 21, 2006, at 09:09, Daniel Morissette wrote:
Is there something broken in the OSGeo wiki?
http://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php/Main_PageIt seems to me that this is not the way the wiki used to look and some formatting is missing... missing stylesheets maybe? Or is this really the intended look and feel? Or maybe it's a browser issue? I'm using Mozilla 1.7.3 on Linux.
MediaWikis usually look like this: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki
Daniel
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Allan Doyle wrote:
Is there a chance you did not pick up the CSS file when the page downloaded? This happens to me occasionally when I go to a site that uses a lot of CSS. I just loaded the page and it looks more or less normal.
I doubt the browser fails to download the CSS if it is properly referenced... the only reason I can imagine for this to happen would be poor network connections, but I don't think that's the case here. I tried reloading the page multiple times without luck, and this problem is not new today, I had noticed it in the few weeks but never reported it. I do remember that the wiki used to display fine in Mozilla way back when.
Anyway, I just tried with Firefox and see the page properly formatted too. There must be something in the CSS or in the HTML that's not well supported by Mozilla 1.7.3 ...
Do we care to support older browsers (I think we should) or do I have to upgrade?
Daniel
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Daniel Morissette schrieb:
Allan Doyle wrote:
Is there a chance you did not pick up the CSS file when the page downloaded? This happens to me occasionally when I go to a site that uses a lot of CSS. I just loaded the page and it looks more or less normal.
I doubt the browser fails to download the CSS if it is properly referenced... the only reason I can imagine for this to happen would be poor network connections, but I don't think that's the case here. I tried reloading the page multiple times without luck, and this problem is not new today, I had noticed it in the few weeks but never reported it. I do remember that the wiki used to display fine in Mozilla way back when.
Anyway, I just tried with Firefox and see the page properly formatted too. There must be something in the CSS or in the HTML that's not well supported by Mozilla 1.7.3 ...
Do we care to support older browsers (I think we should) or do I have to upgrade?
Hi Daniel,
I skimmed through the mediawik HISTORY and mediawiki.org itself, but could not find any hint regarding the use of older browsers.
But on the other hand, isn't it highly advisable not to use outdated browsers in terms of security issues? Thus I wouldn't really focus on being compatible with older browsers.
mediawiki on wiki.osgeo.org needs updating - it's an 1.6.3. We will update it to 1.7.1 (or higher if available) as soon as possible. Maybe that increases compatibilty - but I'm not really optimistic.
Couldn't it be a different browser setting somewhere in your mozilla?
Best Regards,
Benjamin
Daniel
Benjamin Thelen wrote:
I skimmed through the mediawik HISTORY and mediawiki.org itself, but could not find any hint regarding the use of older browsers.
But on the other hand, isn't it highly advisable not to use outdated browsers in terms of security issues? Thus I wouldn't really focus on being compatible with older browsers.
mediawiki on wiki.osgeo.org needs updating - it's an 1.6.3. We will update it to 1.7.1 (or higher if available) as soon as possible. Maybe that increases compatibilty - but I'm not really optimistic.
Couldn't it be a different browser setting somewhere in your mozilla?
It could be lots of things, I was mostly hoping that this would be a known issue that was easy to fix, but apparently it's not. Note that if I visit the main mediawiki.org site then it is displayed properly. The only wiki that does that to me is the OSGeo wiki. Even the mapbender.org site which also uses mediawiki works fine for me.
However you're probably right that we should not waste energies to support a 2 years old browser version and that I should consider upgrading. Please let me know when the wiki has been upgraded and I'll test and let you know if that changed anything.
Daniel
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Daniel Morissette schrieb:
Benjamin Thelen wrote:
I skimmed through the mediawik HISTORY and mediawiki.org itself, but could not find any hint regarding the use of older browsers.
But on the other hand, isn't it highly advisable not to use outdated browsers in terms of security issues? Thus I wouldn't really focus on being compatible with older browsers.
mediawiki on wiki.osgeo.org needs updating - it's an 1.6.3. We will update it to 1.7.1 (or higher if available) as soon as possible. Maybe that increases compatibilty - but I'm not really optimistic.
Couldn't it be a different browser setting somewhere in your mozilla?
It could be lots of things, I was mostly hoping that this would be a known issue that was easy to fix, but apparently it's not. Note that if I visit the main mediawiki.org site then it is displayed properly. The only wiki that does that to me is the OSGeo wiki. Even the mapbender.org site which also uses mediawiki works fine for me.
Daniel,
That really is a strange matter. mapbender.org and wiki.osgeo.org are the same mediawiki versions. But different settings are surely used - I'm going to compare both LocalSettings.php with each other as soon as possible.
mediawiki.org itself even uses 1.8alpha!
mapbender.org and wiki.osgeo.org are on quite different machines. First is a debian sarge with php4.3 in a XEN environment and the second is a Ubuntu using php5.0.
Indeed, it could be lots of things ;-). To bad. I'm checking the LocalSettings.php first.
However you're probably right that we should not waste energies to support a 2 years old browser version and that I should consider upgrading. Please let me know when the wiki has been upgraded and I'll test and let you know if that changed anything.
I'll let you know.
Best,
Ben
Daniel